And this is this was this was hard, but at the end of the night, we talked through it, we shared things from the letters. I dont know how many people had heard of it. How come its always wives submit to your husbands and never husbands love your wives? And I said, I understand that. I knew that I wasnt going to win any arguments in the room. That this was all a plot by him that he was vengeful, towards James McDonald. So I had a pretty good sense of what the meeting was gonna be from that point on. Although as soon as, pretty much after Mancow aired it. So quick to forgive and people were giving me hugs the next night. #JRgossipslut #JRcancerinChristsbody. It was a large elder board. And what happened and all the backroom meetings, private conversations and phone calls leading up to that fateful event? But so much else not owned. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. A Christian leader, according to 1 Timothy 3:3, should not be "greedy for filthy lucre.". And I remember a comment being made. You know, they asked him as an executive committee member and the elder board chairman. I wrote back to her, and I apologized to her. So walk us through the drama of that weekend, James McDonald trying to save his job. So grateful to be healthy and happy in the Lord to where I can finally wade into the filth from JuLIE Roys. Yeah. I remember as a young pastor first hearing about James at a 2002 Moody Pastors Conference and reading his well written book on hermeneutics with an apologetic leaning and being blessed from his book. I remember waking up that morning. Julie, thank you for your excellent work in exposing that which is done in darkness, among the body of Christ. And and again, I got out of this like so unbelievably easily. No, Im just reporting. It seems we are being punished for the acts of someone who was our spiritual leader. I remember going home, my wife picked me up, I went home, and I just laid on the couch and looked at her. Ugh. Welcome to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. And I remember, Julie, I was in that meeting that Tuesday night. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. It was a four hour meeting. And we shouldnt be, you know, happy with standing in line and say, well, so and so said that, right? That would have been December I think 18th, 2018. Hi. So, Julie Roys decided to do what she does best - investigative journalism - in order to find out the truth in the world of m. In an email to The Roys Report (TRR), Vernick noted that in the Old Testament, Abigail, the wife of the boorish and immature, Nabal, was a strong woman, married to a weak characterand she wasnt toxic. And lets just, for people who dont know, tell them who Rick Donald is and the position he held and his relation to James McDonald. And and that would be my word to James McDonald. Because your article seemed to conflate all these things. Gary Weigel, if you total all the expenses including vet bills, it might be more than a tithe. So I mean, again, this was round. So I appreciate it. Voice of James MacDonald Believed to Be Featured in Vulgar Comments. He was the senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel megachurch in Rolling Meadows, Illinois, United States [1] [2] and was the host for the church's former broadcast ministry, Walk in the Word . James Macdonald is a wolf and sadly so many have been fooled by this charlatan. I totally get the emotion that you must have felt because I felt it, too. The marriage relationship has died. . Both are true. Well, you know, we laugh about it. But James McDonald, he did not like to fly with the commoners, from what I understand. . Hes like the whole the whole thing was about resigning. I knew that there were hundreds of people, probably more, that were hurt that all this stuff happened. The whole crooked machine needs to be brought down. So these letters, and this is what I found really riveting about your story, is when these letters were first given, as you said, they were given to pastors, with the exception of Sandys letter that went directly to you. Dan George served as an elder at Harvest Bible Chapel over a period of 10 years, actively serving on the elder board from 2010 through 2015, and rejoining the board in late 2018. On Thursday, the seventh, I got a text from one of the elders who said, Call me if you can before such and such a time. Judson is located on a beautiful 90 acre campus just 36 miles northwest of Chicago. If this passage defines what a strong husband looks like, I think most of the issues take care of themselves. Hed been the senior pastor the whole time. It is not an ecclesiastical remedy at least not any longer. Imagine such a thing. According to anindependent auditof Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. He says, Well, for when I kept silent my bones wasted through my groaning all day long for day and night, your hand was heavy upon me. She sends it to me and I wrote it. Ill write a statement. It looks like these contemporary churches are just fundamentalists in different garb. None of my sources said it was wrong. Hi. That was a very common part of how Harvest approached things like that. I mean, again, it was a meeting into the wee hours of the night, early morning. And so I was pulling into the garage, and I knew I knew, as soon as I pulled in the garage, you know, I was, I was gonna go drive up to whatever floor and go to the meeting. Well, youre welcome. He should sell cars or computers. Thanks for for standing up for what was right. Jared Prayed for you just now. And they are even beloved by God. And I knew that I needed to do something publicly. So who is he talking about? I hope you have a great day and God bless. I mean, just stuff that you just cant even fathom comes from a man who supposedly is a man of God, a preacher of the gospel. Its come to this. And you got all of them. The 8 Best Julie Roys Podcasts. To donate, click here. Chicago-area Republic Bank has stopped foreclosure proceedings against disgraced celebrity preacher, James MacDonald, and reinstated MacDonald's mortgage on his $1.5 million Elgin estate. And I got the text. And most of them, a number of them, Ill say, have not read any of these letters. To myself, I said, and do our job. Not all the elders had physical copies of the letters at that point. Instead, he blocked our access to his and Generation Churchs social media accounts. If you read his letter, he was going to publish his letter. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. You do that, and hope that the person will repent, and that they will turn and that therell be restoration. to Rick Donald. That was really wrongdoing at Harvest, would be to repent. They said no, for various reasons. Am I right? when men make the final decision in the marriage, even if they consult with their wife first, chances of divorce increases 7.4 times . Yeah Cynthia. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? Thank you for loving the Church and the Lord God Almighty, to take the hard but righteous way rather than the hard way. This was a many time thing. Good to be here. But that is my hope. Not everybody had the physical letters, but we talked through what was in the letters. Its not being nice, polite, or inoffensive. Is that an accurate representation? And so she sent me a letter before it went to the elder board. Maybe some have on this platform for posting Julie has provided, but Ive never seen it. pretty rotten.. All my legal fees got paid. Shame on you for reading scripture! If you find yourself unaware of But would he have been able to save face do you think? And she immediately said, Ill write a letter. . Its more of a social teaching of extreme patriarchal churches to protect and promote the power structure of who is God-ordained to be in charge. . No, it wasnt edited. Were supposed to approve this budget, and we dont even have a line item. So thats why I think its so important to get the truth out there and to just keep speaking the truth. Just look at King David . And this wasnt a one time thing. This is this is one of the biggest things elders could do. Am I characterizing that correctly? Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. And so when they started arguing the process, I was just like, Oh, my gosh, thats what were just gonna talk about the process. And then he apologized. And you know, shepherds, I think of John 10, right, the the hireling runs away, the Good Shepherd stays. And Im just trying to smear him. And in those letters like Jacob Ross, who was the bodyguard of James McDonald. Church, Ministry News When Christian leaders continue to teach that abuse does not constitute biblical grounds for divorce they are wrong, Vernick wrote. Its so interesting. It was a battle in the natural but more than that, there was a spiritual battle going on then, and I think its still going on now. Like wow! On January 7, 2019, Harvest elders announced they decided to drop the lawsuit against Julie Roys and four other individuals. ( was spent) That seems pretty straightforward. But it was dark. There was just enough false doctrine so that it was swallowed up with the truth. Well, maybe it had approval by the executive elders, maybe it had approval by Fred Adams, who was the CFO at the time. He would probably be wildly successful. This is the most used and abused (pun intended) argument. Why is it important to you to let people know what really happened? So he was fired. And there was a voicemail from one of the pastors at Harvest, in a really sort of pushing for me to sign that put my name to that. Nah Gary, thats just typical cat behavior for you, with or without Kenneth Copeland. Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. What does the bible say about that? 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